[S07E02] May 2025 - Roy Palmer




In this May 2025 edition of the Theremin 30 Podcast, host Rick Reid plays theremin music from Australia, Iceland, Finland, and England. Rick's interview guest is Roy Palmer, one of the organizers of the 2025 Hands Off Theremin Festival.

FEATURED MUSIC*

*The full-length recordings featured in this show were used with the knowledge and permission of the artists and composers. Please support the artists by visiting their websites, purchasing their recordings, and attending their performances. 

ADDITIONAL MUSIC

INTERVIEW GUEST

CALENDAR OF THEREMIN EVENTS

MEDIA & NEWS LINKS

SUPPORT THIS PODCAST

CONTACT

CREDITS 

Copyright 2025 Rick Reid 


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TRANSCRIPT

Please note: This transcript was created with the help of speech-to-text AI.  It may contain some errors.

David Brower  0:00  
Rick, this is Theremin 30 - Thirty minutes of Theremin music, news, events and interviews with a new episode about every 30 days. Now. Here's your host, Rick Reid.

Rick Reid  0:18  
hello there. Welcome to the May 2025, edition of the theremin 30 podcast this month. I've got Theremin music from Australia, Iceland, Finland and England. And my interview guest is Roy Palmer. He'll be telling us all about Hands off 2025, a weekend of Theremin events set for this September in the East Midlands region of England. We'll also take a look at the theremin 30 calendar and more.

Let's get right to it with a classical Theremin performance from Australian thereminist Gary P Hayes, followed by a track from the latest album by Hekla. I'll have more details for You on the other side.

We started the show with Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata as performed by Sydney Australia recording artist Gary P Hayes from his new album The classical Theremin Two. This 17 track collection is available now on band camp. After that, I played a track called Grammin from the Turnar album by Icelandic recording artist Hekla. Obviously, I don't speak Icelandic. According to Google Translate, the track is called The Gray in English, and the album title translates as Towers. You can order the album on vinyl LP or purchase a download on Bandcamp. Links for both artists are in this month's show notes at theremin30.com.

It's time now for a look at the theremin 30 calendar of Theremin events. Friday, May 23 is the anniversary of the birth of Dr Robert Moog, also this weekend, Masami Takeuchi leads at their mid workshop in Hamamatsu city, Japan. Also in Japan, progressive rock artist Andmo performs at Raw Tracks in the Osaka area. And Thorwald Jorgenson has a classical concert in the Netherlands. On June 7 the divine hand ensemble holds its annual concert among the crypts in the Philadelphia area. And on June 28 Ernesto Mendoza performs at the Antique Toy Museum in Mexico City. I also want to share a couple of news items. Gaudi Labs has announced a new version of the open Theremin four that has built in MIDI jacks for connecting to other instruments. I have a link to details in this month's show notes, and Los Angeles based thereminist Randy George is featured in the score of the new Disney movie Lilo and Stitch. It opens in the USA on May 23 for other countries, check their local movie listings. 

Coming up in a few minutes. I'll visit with Roy Palmer about the 2025 Hands Off festival, set for this fall in the East Midlands of England. But first, I've got a recent recording from Finland composer Kepa Lehtinen called Dark Romance. It's part of a four track EP called Dark that you can listen to on Spotify, and you can see the official music video for This track on the theremin 30 playlist on YouTube. 

My interview guest this month is Roy Palmer. He lives in Nottingham, England, where he moderates the Theremini People group on Facebook. Roy is also part of a group of volunteers planning the 2025 Hands Off Festival. I spoke with Roy a couple of weeks ago to find out about plans for the event. Roy, thank you for being back on Theremin 30. Thank you for inviting me back a couple years ago. You were on the show talking about your Theremini user group. This time, we're going to talk about something that's not specific to the Theremini. It's the Hands Off 2025, event that you're planning.

Roy Palmer  16:06  
That's right, yes, put it in a nutshell as possible, for some time, I've had this dream. Call it a nightmare, of having a theremin event in my hometown. Two reasons, love the theremin. Second reason, I'm lazy and I don't want to travel too far. Then also what happened was a group of us coming out of the Copenhagen event said it wouldn't be good to do a UK based Theremin event. And then I came across a venue in my locality that looked ideal to do this sort of event in. And it grew from there, really, and then everything suddenly became, sort of falling into place. The venue was available, the people were available, and the main person that was available for the weekend I'd chosen was, of course, Lydia Kavina, who has rubber stamped this, mainly also because the the title Hands Off Festival began many years ago. The use of that term started, I think it was back in 2007 when there was a Hands Off Festival in Scarborough in the UK, which I believe you attended. 

Rick Reid  17:13  
Well, I was at the one in Scarborough in 2011. I'm not sure if that's where the 2007 one was or not. I wasn't involved in the community back then. Yours is going to be in Nottingham, is that right? 

Roy Palmer  17:26  
Yeah. Nottingham is where I live and breathe, and it's in a lovely Anglican church called St Paul's, which is in Daybreak, which is only a few miles from the city center. Great access for the UK and for Europe. And we have our own airport, and then links from the airport into the city center, great bus and travel networks. The Church has made itself available for two days, so the plan is to have the first day for intermediate and advanced players, where we will run a variety of workshops, ranging from talking about MIDI, talking about Theremin in Asian music, something called thereoki, which is where we get a list of tracks and people play. Because the main thing we Theremin players like to do is meet other players and also play together and share our music and our ideas, so that we discussion groups and so on. On the evening or the Friday we'll have a social event, because, of course, we all like to eat and have perhaps a beer or two. And then the Saturday morning, there will be two public sessions, one for kids, one for grown ups, so that members of the public get a chance to have a go themselves. You know, one of the great things with the theremin is, once you have a go yourself, it kind of becomes captivating, and you get hooked on it. But unfortunately, there's not the opportunity to do that, and that's what we've created here. So there's two workshops, a junior and an adult.

Rick Reid  18:56  
 And this is in September? I don't know if we mentioned the date. 

Roy Palmer  18:58  
The dates are the 19th and the 20th of September this year, we'll be running from 10 till five each day, but the second day so we have the the open workshops in the morning for children and for adults, then in the afternoon. Well, we're going to finish with a concert on the evening of the Saturday the 20th, from seven till 930 Lydia will be our main star, but there will also feature an ensemble piece. So throughout the weekend, those of who are there will be learning an ensemble piece to play as part of a public concert. There will also be a really great chap that I've met a year or so ago called Peter Chaloner, who is an ambient electronic music player with synths and so on. Not a thereminist, not a thereminist, but he and I become good friends, and we're going to start working on a piece together for the event. Because, of course, Lydia has sent out a few challenges as she does, one of which. Was to myself to come up with something. Another one was with Peter. I introduced her to Peter because I met Peter at an electronic music festival which featured Thorsten Quaeschning from Tangerine Dream. We shared the same interesting music. I'm a big fan of electronic music, and so we sort of developed this friendship and this talk about doing something together. Then I mentioned his name to Lydia, and she said, Oh, would he like to work at the concert and we can do something? And I said, Well, ask him. And so they've now got their heads together and come up with something they're going to work on then. And this has evolved over the last few months. Lydia said, Is there a church organist? And I said, Well, I believe so. Well, would he like to partake as well, and I can play something with him. And so it's become not just Lydia on our own, but Lydia with Peter myself as kind of MC for the evening, the church organ, the piece I'm working on. My late father was a politician in Nottingham, but also worked in the local coal mines, which were all closed down many years ago. And the coal mining he worked at is only a few miles from Arnold, where we're daybrook St Paul's church. So I'm working on a piece which is going to be a tribute to my father. We use some audio clips I managed to record in an interview I filmed with him many years ago, one of the things he said in the interview was, I never wanted to be a minor. I hated the thought of going underground and being a minor. And at the time, he was looking for work. That was the only work available, and so at the tender age of 15, he went down the mines, finished when he was 60. But those was a strong campaigner for health and safety within the coal mining industry. The piece I'm working on will be a tribute to him. Will be a mix of my own, improvised Theremin playing some ambient electronics, hopefully something with Peter, also a lady that I've met recently who's a great vocalist, who will partly sing. I'm not sure if you would be familiar, or your listeners would be familiar with the hymn Jerusalem. 

Rick Reid  22:05  
Oh, yeah, Emerson, Lake, and Palmer did that one. Of course, we know that one.

Roy Palmer  22:10  
Of course, yeah, opening track from Brain Salad Surgery. So I'm working on this piece at the moment. It may, it may fall apart at the first hurdle, but I've done a demo already which Lydia was quite enthralled with, and a few other people, because, like, you know, music, we talk often talk about music and the technicalities and the complexities of music, but it also has that emotional capacity and side to it, and this is very much from my heart and from My love for my father and what he stood for, and I'm hoping it will all work on the night. 

Rick Reid  22:47  
So a couple more questions about this event. This is not a closed off event where only a few people can participate, like we did in Denmark, right? This is more open to the public. 

Roy Palmer  22:58  
It's almost got two parts. There is intermediate and advanced because of the theremin's nature of not being able to play too many Theremin together in one room, we've had to limit it to 20 people physically because of the size and the space available to separate them, the public part, which is open to anyone, will also be limited to 20 but only because of the physicality and what we don't want. You know, if we, if we said, oh, it's open to 30, 40, or 50, would not everybody would get a chance to have a go. But what we're also planning to do off the back of this event, we want to build on opportunities for newcomers to try the theremin. So there is a small group of us that have been discussing this possibility and are working towards having regular Theremin workshops and events around the UK that are in person. You know, we've had enough of the online environment. You know, we've survived COVID And we've survived the online community, but we've got to that point, at least COVID, where you want to meet people.

Rick Reid  24:01  
Well, it sounds like a great event. I went to the, as I mentioned, the hands off in 2011 in Scarborough, and I've still kept in touch with most of the people I met there. Many of them have been on the podcast. So it's a, you know, if anybody has the ability and the time to make it to Nottingham in September for this event. I really recommend it. It's sounds like it's going to be a great event. I wish I could be there.

Roy Palmer  24:25  
It's Hands Off Festival 2025, Saint Paul's church in Daybrook, which is on the outskirts of Nottingham. It is September the 19th and 20th, which are the workshop days. And then on the evening of the 20th, an amazing concert of electronic music and Theremin music.

Rick Reid  24:44  
if you'd like to attend the hands off concert, there is a link to tickets on this month's show notes at Theremin30.com. I'll also add a link to workshop registration as soon as it becomes available. In the meantime, I'll post an email address where you can contact event organizers directly.

With the time remaining in the show. Here's an electronic improv featuring Roy Palmer on Theremini and Peter Challoner on synthesizers. This is called Ambient Mixology 3.

That was Ambient Mixology 3. It began as a live concert performance by Peter Challoner, then Roy Palmer added a layer of Theremini sounds in the studio. Both Peter and Roy will be part of the hands off Festival in September. Tthanks to them, as well as Gary P Hayes, Hekla and Kepa Lehtinen for sharing their music this month. Please support these artists any way you can. And a big thanks goes to the listeners who support this show with small one time or monthly donations or by purchasing items from the merch store and the pro shop on the theremin 30 website. Until next time, I'm your host, Rick Reid, and I'll see you again somewhere in the ether.

David Brower  29:51  
You've been listening to the theremin 30 podcast. Visit Theremin 30 on the web at Theremin30.com.

[S07E01] April 2025 - Sixth Anniversary Special





In this April 2025 edition of the Theremin 30 Podcast, host Rick Reid plays theremin music from Denmark, England, France, and the USA. Rick celebrates the show's sixth anniversary with highlights from past interviews.

FEATURED MUSIC*

*The full-length recordings featured in this show were used with the knowledge and permission of the artists and composers. Please support the artists by visiting their websites, purchasing their recordings, and attending their performances. 

ADDITIONAL MUSIC

INTERVIEW GUESTS (from the Theremin 30 archives)

CALENDAR OF THEREMIN EVENTS

MEDIA LINKS

SUPPORT THIS PODCAST

CONTACT

CREDITS 

Copyright 2025 Rick Reid 


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TRANSCRIPT

Please note: This transcript was created with the help of speech-to-text AI.  It may contain some errors.

David Brower  0:04  
This is Theremin 30 -- 30 minutes of Theremin music, news, events and interviews, with a new episode about every 30 days now. Here's your host, Rick Reid.

Rick Reid  0:18  
Hey. Welcome to the April 2025, edition of the Theremin 30 podcast. This is the first episode of season seven, so that makes this the sixth anniversary of the show. I started way back in 2019 which seems almost like a lifetime ago. So much has changed in the world and the theremin community and in my own life since then. It's a bit mind boggling to think about it. Over the next half hour, fortunately, we won't have to do any deep thinking, but some deep listening is in order with new Theremin music from Denmark, England by way of Italy, or maybe it's Italy by way of England, also France, and the USA. We'll also revisit some of the interviews of the past six years to help you catch up on episodes you may have missed. Let's get things started with a couple of European recording artists and their new music featuring theremin. First, it's a new single from the Danish band the Counterfictionals, featuring Kristoffer Rosing-Schow. After that, we'll hear from Matteo Ciminari. I'll tell you more about both recordings on the other side.

Rick Reid  10:07
We started the show with a track called poems and rain by Danish band the Counterfictionals. It's the first single from their forthcoming album, An Incomplete Encyclopedia of Gentle Emotions. The band describes this as the score to an imaginary movie starring Timothy Chalamet as James Joyce and Tilda Swinton as the God of Rain. The Counterfictionals are led by composer and multi-instrumentalist Kristoffer Rosing-Schow. You can hear more of their music in the october 2023 episode of Theremin 30 and I interviewed Kristoffer in the September 2024 episode our second track came from Matteo Ciminari. Attitu-de Reduction is a track from his new album called Mental Core Drillings. Matteo is based in London, but he recorded the new album last year in Italy. Matteo plays electric guitar throughout the new album, and Theremin as a supporting instrument on just a couple of the tracks. You can hear music from his previous album Fried Hippocampus in the July 2019, episode of Theremin 30. And for more information about both Kristoffer and Matteo, click on their names in this month's show notes at Theremin30.com.

Rick Reid  11:18
Up next, I have a recent performance by French thereminist Gregoire Blanc from Mozart's comic opera, Cosi Fan Tutti. Gregoire plays three vocal parts, multi-tracked using a D-Lev digital Theremin plus he plays all the other instruments and his rendition of Soave sia il vento, or May The Wind Be Gentle. 

Rick Reid  14:39
That was Gregoire Blanc performing the operatic trio, May the Wind Be Gentle from Mozart's Cosi Fan Tutti. That track is not available on an album, but you can watch the music video on the Theremin 30 YouTube playlist. I spoke with Gregoire in the April 2021 episode, and again in the March 2022 episode. And my interview with D-Lev Theremin designer Eric Wallen is featured in the February 2022 episode.

Rick Reid  15:15
Because this is the sixth anniversary episode of the theremin 30 podcast, I thought it might be nice to take a look back at some of the interviews we've had on the show. If you're a new listener, take notes so you can go back and hear the full episodes you may have missed my very first guest, way back in April of 2019 was Theremin designer, Dan Burns. 

Dan Burns  15:37  
I started making Theremin actually when I was a kid, and later discovered that people were interested in them. That's really how I started making Theremins and selling them, because I'd make Theremin and people wanted them, and I'd put one up on eBay and people would buy it and they'd like it. So that kind of got the whole thing going. 

Rick Reid  15:58  
Are there any touring acts or recording artists we may have heard of that use your theremin. 

Dan Burns  16:02  
Yes, there is quite a number of them. One that comes to mind is Lez Zeppelin, which is an all girl Zeppelin band. Also Tesla is famous for using one of our Theremins on a song about Nikola Tesla.

Rick Reid  16:24  
Other guests in that first season included thereminist Eric Ross, Dorit Chrysler, Clara Rockmore's nephew Robert Sherman, and Bob Moog's daughter Michelle Moog-Koussa in an extended two-part interview. 

Michelle Moog-Koussa  16:36  
Well, the Bob Moog Foundation was created to carry on Bob Moog pioneering legacy, and the genesis of it really was the family and friends discovering what an incredible inspirational force Bob had been to 1000s of people all over the world throughout his life and career, and the goal is to carry that inspiration forward. And so our mission is to inspire people through the intersection of science, music and innovation. We have an educational project called Dr Bob sound School, where we teach little kids about the science of sound. We have a huge archive of a material that we protect and preserve and share with other museums and organizations and researchers, and we now have our own Moogseum, where those two focuses of education and archive preservation converge. 

Rick Reid  17:34  
Season two began right after the worldwide COVID lockdown began. Lydia Cavanagh was my first guest of the season, talking about her weekly online Theremin workshop that continues to this day. That same season, I also spoke with open Theremin designer Urs Goudenz, documentary filmmaker Stephen M. Martin and synthesizer pioneer Herb Deutsch. I'm going to do something unusual today, and we're not going to talk about synthesizers. We're going to talk about theremins.

Herb Deutsch  18:05  
Okay, I put them both in a world that I love. 

Rick Reid  18:08  
Now, you got your first theremin? What around 1962, 61?

Herb Deutsch  18:14  
Yes, I got my first Theremin after reading Bob Moog article on the theremin, what it is and how to make it assassinated me very much, because, of course, I knew what a theremin was, but I never had one. And so it was a fascinating thing to read. And as soon as I read it, I called his office. Then the phone number was given in the article, and I called that phone number. And of course, his wife answered. And I've probably said this a million times to a million people, but I did the same thing everyone else would do, and I said, is Bob Moog there? And of course, she She corrected me. He wasn't there, but she sent me a theremin kit, which I believe cost me about $45.

Rick Reid  19:07  
One of my favorite interviews from season three was with Xiao Xiao in August of 2021. We talked about how she developed a way to make a theremin sing.

Xiao Xiao  19:21  
This was a project called T Voks, spelled T, V, O, k, s, and the idea is to connect a vocal synthesizer to the theremin, which gives the theremin the ability to sing with lyrics and to recite poetry. This project came about when I was doing a short research pilot project at a lab in Paris called LEM, which stands for luthriacoustic music. This group had developed a vocal synthesizer that's controlled by hand gestures, and they connected it to a Wacom tablet where you're able to, to kind of draw on the screen and sing with this really realistic sounding synthesized voice. At that point, I had started to play the theremin and I had been playing for a few months, and I was really excited about it. And with a colleague, Greg from the lab, we kind of got together during weekends to see whether we could connect the vocal synthesizer to the theremin, then it kind of worked pretty well, because we already know as Theremin players that the theremin has this incredible capacity to mimic the human voice when you add lyrics to it. That's just another dimension that you can play with. 

Rick Reid  20:39  
During season four, I got to visit with Drew Raison from the Electronic Music Education and Preservation Project. He told me about some of the rare and historic Theremins in their archive.

Drew Raison  20:50  
When a rare instrument hits the market and it ought to be preserved, as opposed to ending up in a private collection that a generation is going to miss it and it could end up in a dumpster. Sometimes we have to jump in there and really save it. And a couple of our advisors, one in particular, a gentleman named Brian keyhu, helped steer us into the history of the theremin. And again, from the position of a curator, he wants to tell the story of the theremin and show the development of it. So we have, I consider this to be a flagship object. It's a 1929 RCA theremin. That's the large wooden one that is just so beautiful looking. And we see in pictures of many early Theremin players. And it also has its matching speaker cabinet. And that Theremin sat in our lobby for the longest time, and it was a highlight when Mano Davina, who I'm sure you know and have spoken with, he's been on the show. He also lives five minutes from here, ironically, and he was playing on that Theremin, which is a finicky instrument. The tone of that instrument was shockingly delicious. I kind of almost can't describe it beyond it was almost like, imagine a theremin that kind of had a little bit of a warm blanket feeling to it. But, I mean, that's old school technology there at its finest. 

Rick Reid  22:03  
In season five, one of my guests was Mike Buffington, who specializes in repairing and restoring vintage RCA theremin. He told me about his project to meticulously restore and publish a set of four authentic RCA Theremin documents, including two marketing brochures, an owner's manual and service notes.

Mike Buffington  22:22  
These are documents that were printed around the time of the RCA Theremin The goal was to get these things professionally printed and to make them look as authentic and original as possible. 

Rick Reid  22:36  
Well, it sounds like it's a perfect companion to an RCA Theremin that's in a museum or in a private collection, right? 

Mike Buffington  22:44  
Absolutely, I have a set sitting on one of my RCAs. 

Rick Reid  22:47  
You're the only person I know who can say one of my RCAs,

Mike Buffington  22:53  
it's not it's not a problem. I'm okay. 

Rick Reid  22:55  
Why do these need to be reproduced in the first place? 

Mike Buffington  22:58  
You're not going to find a better looking replica instruction manual, anything you can find out there is going to be laser printed and bound with staples and won't have that beautiful brown cover, won't be offset printed, won't have that red ink on the cover. And so it's like, Why? Why settle for something less than that? 

Rick Reid  23:17  
Season Six was a particularly challenging time for me. Finally, after more than six months without full time work, I landed a new career as a writerproducer with a group of broadcast TV networks based in Chicago. The past year was one of the most stressful periods of my whole life. As I made the cross country move and got settled into my new life, I managed to produce only five episodes of the theremin 30 podcast, but I think they were some of the most interesting. As I spoke with Theremin designer Jake Rothman and four recording artists, including Miles Brown, who performed on the soundtrack of the indie horror film Late Night With the Devil. 

Miles Brown  23:56  
So this movie, late night with the devil was being produced in Melbourne, and the Cairns brothers, Colin and Cameron Cairns, got in touch with me, and they were like, we're doing this movie, and we need to build a prop. The movie set in the early 70s. And we wonder if you could be a consultant for us and make sure we're building the right prop, like what Theremin would have been around. And so I was like, yeah, it would be an RCA, so help them with that. And then they were like, oh, one of our characters is going to play the theremin. Could you just show him how a theremin works so that he understands what he's doing? So Rhys came around to my house, and I sort of showed him how the theremin works. Then they called me and they're like, we've been thinking, maybe it would be nice if you could actually be on set and play Theremin off camera while he's miming, so that it feels and looks right. So then I went down and did that, and then it just kept on snowballing from there, really. And then they were like, obviously, we need you to record the theremin for the for the movie, for the parts. And if you, if you've seen the movie, you know, there's features in the story quite a lot, and then I ended up playing on the soundtrack as well, like my friend Glenn Richards from the band Augie March, was doing the score. And I've played with Glenn many times in over the years. And so I ended up playing on the score as well. 

Rick Reid  25:12  
And that brings us up to season seven, starting with the episode you're listening to right now. I hope you enjoyed this trip down memory lane. I invite you to browse the now more than 25 hours of Theremin content in previous episodes over the first six years. You can find notes for every episode on the website Theremin30.com. Now let's finish this show with new music from Annaglyph, a project of Northern California based musician, artist and animator Ann Wherry, her latest creation, complete with a fascinating music video on the theremin 30 YouTube playlist is called Broken Hands.

Rick Reid  29:02 
That was broken hands by Annaglyph. You can listen to four other recordings by Annaglyph in previous episodes. Just go to the theremin30.com website and search for Annaglyph in the text search box near the upper right corner of the page. Thanks so much for all of the musicians who have contributed music to this show over the past six years, including this month's feature artists, the Counterfictionals, Matteo Ciminari, Gregoire Blanc, and Annaglyph. Also, thank you for the generous listeners who help support this show with small one time or monthly donations. Every little bit helps to keep the show going. Until next time. I'm your host, Rick Reid, and I'll see you again somewhere in the ether.

David Brower  29:47  
You've been listening to the Theremin 30 podcast. Visit Theremin 30 on the web at Theremin30.com.