September 2021 - Dorit Chrysler

 



In the September 2021 episode of the Theremin 30 podcast, host Rick Reid plays music from Japan, Finland, the USA, and Italy. Rick's interview guest is Dorit Chrysler, co-founder of the NY Theremin Society and a consulting artist on the Moog Music Claravox Centennial theremin. 

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FEATURED MUSIC*

*The full-length recordings featured in this show were used with the knowledge and permission of the artists and composers. Please support the artists by visiting their websites, purchasing their recordings, and attending their performances. 

ADDITIONAL MUSIC

INTERVIEW GUEST

CALENDAR OF THEREMIN EVENTS

MEDIA LINKS

CONTACT

CREDITS 

Copyright 2021 Rick Reid 


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TRANSCRIPT

This transcript was created with an automated speech-to-text system. There will be some errors.

David Brower  0:04  
This is Theremin 30. Thirty minutes of theremin music, news, events, and interviews, with a new episode about every 30 days. Now here's your host from Denver, Colorado, USA, Rick Reid.

Rick Reid  0:19  
Well hello there. Welcome to the 28th edition of the Theremin 30 podcast. This is September of 2021 and I am your humble host. Over the next half hour, I've got some great new theremin music from Japan, Finland, and Italy and a not-so-new track from the USA. My special guest this month is Dorit Chrysler from the New York Theremin Society. Dorit was one of the musicians who consulted with mcg music during the development of the new Claravox Centennial theremin and she'll be conducting some Claravox workshops in October. Let's get right into the music now with a brand new track from electric travelers featuring Fatern on Theremin and vocals and Tomio Katayama on synthesizers. This track is called Shinkai, which means deep sea.

Rick Reid  8:38  
We started the show with a new track called Shinkai by Japanese band Electric Travelers. Then we heard Face Plant, the title track of a recent mini-album from Kepa Lehtinen. Kepa says the title Face Plant was inspired by his love of skateboarding and the inevitable falls that come with it. To learn more about Electric Travelers and Kepa Lehtinen, click on their names and this month show notes and check out their videos on the Theremin 30 YouTube playlist. Coming up after the break, I'll take a look at the calendar of events and play a track from the Texas trio known as the octopus project. So stay tuned.

Rick Reid  9:27  
It's time now for the Theremin 30 calendar of Theremin events a look at Theremin-related concerts, workshops and other Theremin things happening around the world in the weeks ahead. On September 9 and 10th Xiao Xiao will perform with the Wandering Mind project at the Ars Electronica festival in Linz, Austria. On Saturday, September 11, Sheuh-Li Ong welcomes radio science orchestra thereminist Bruce Woolley to her YouTube chat show on September 15, and 16th Dorit Chrysler will perform on the Moog Claravox at Superbooth in Berlin, Germany. From September 16 through the 18th Fishbone, featuring thereminist Angelo Moore will make outdoor festival appearances in Chicago, Milwaukee, and Southern California. And Lydia Kavina continues her online workshops on most Sundays. For details about all of these events and more, check out the interactive calendar on Theremin30.com. And if you have an event you'd like me to put on the calendar, send me all the details through the website, Twitter or Facebook. The Octopus Project featuring Josh Lambert, Toto Miranda, and Yvonne Lambert will be playing live at the Levitation festival in Austin, Texas on October 28. The trio also recently had one of their tracks featured in an episode of The CW TV series The Republic of Sara, and they've been commissioned to score an upcoming documentary about the beloved public television series Reading Rainbow. Let's listen now to a track from their 2008 album Hello Avalanche that features Yvonne Lambert on theremin This is called, I saw the Bright Shinies.

Rick Reid  14:54  
That was I saw the Bright Shinies by The Octopus Project. Be sure to check out the fun, animated music video on the Theremin 30 YouTube playlist. Coming up after the break I'll visit with Dorit Chrysler about the new Claravox Centennial Theremin. So stick around.

Rick Reid  15:24  
Dorit Chrysler is a co-founder of The New York Theremin Society and a world-renowned professional Thereminist who teaches online and in-person theremin workshops from her current home base in Berlin, Germany. She was one of three professional thereminists to get prototypes of the Claravox Centennial theremin to provide feedback to the designers at Moog Music. I spoke with her a few days ago via Zoom. Dorit Chrysler. Thank you so much for being on Theremin 30.

Dorit Chrysler
My pleasure. Nice to be here.

Rick Reid
For people who are not familiar with the New York Theremin Society. Why don't you tell us what that is and why it seems to be based in Germany and not New York.

Dorit Chrysler  16:00  
The New York Theremin Society is an international network that promotes the visibility of the instrument specifically in different art forms. Because of COVID-19 it has been hard to do concert series in New York as well as theremin workshops. And because I have relocated as of lately to Berlin even though I'm still jumping around, the workshops has been recently mostly restricted to online.

Rick Reid  16:28  
you are the first person I know of to get the Moog Music Claravox Centennial theremin. You've had one for several months, now. How did that happen?

Dorit Chrysler  16:36  
Well, I have been contacted by Cyril Lance, who at the time, was the head engineer of Moog Music, he started working on the analog aspects of the Claravox. Because we have a working relationship for many years he had contacted me and I think Pamelia and Gregoire to solicit us with questions about what we would want in a new theremin and to collaborate. And I think that's really wonderful in the spirit of Bob Moog himself to work closely with the artists together. It's obviously fascinating for a musician to see how an instrument evolves and is being made. I had several meetings with Cyril, he also came to New York and we literally tested several prototypes in development in terms of what it would need. And you know, every player has different needs and demands. But for me, it was really important to have the whole sound quality, the capacity of the instrument, and specifically being able to set the capacity of the instrument and how it responds in speeds and the curve of pitch and volume. I think the Claravox will really produce a lot of better players. It's easier to play, and it has a really rich, full-bodied sound. But that being said, it really will demand from every player to use the choices this instrument offers to really find their own setting of what sound exactly you want to have. We never had an instrument that had such a varied potential of different colors and tones that you want to set. And also, there's a lot of calibration potential with this instrument that you can adapt to your own playing needs. I've tried it out live now a few times the calibration is incredibly stable and really easy to adjust on the fly, which is pretty exciting. 

Rick Reid  18:46  
The front panel of the Claravox gives you all the usual controls you'd expect from a Moog theremin, plus a low-pass filter and the delay effect. But once you plug it into the app, or the editor librarian app, there's a whole new range of things that you can do with it.

Dorit Chrysler  19:02  
It takes it kind of to the next level, what I also have been diving into that I find really interesting. And it will take all the players probably some time is with this external software, like a guitar or like setting different microphones you can dive so much now into different tone and color variations that I have gotten so obsessed about each piece I play has a completely different setting. And you then just jump very quickly from one to the other. And now you really have this whole bandwidth of sounds. And you can really play them in settings in ways of response of how high you want the volume curve and where you want the field to be. For me it really opens a whole new possibilities that I'm quite excited about.

Rick Reid  19:55  
The one thing I think is missing is an owner's manual. There's no instructions on how to use the app that I can find.

Dorit Chrysler  20:03  
That's a good point, we should definitely bring that to the attention. Personally, I always dive into instruments without manual and just explore on the fly. And I don't know if that brings you to the goal faster or not. And then when I need to know something, I'll go back and look things up. I worked with the software also, and I set the sounds. I listened. And then I know how to save and how to jump quickly from sound to sound. But you're right, it should be made more clear.

Rick Reid  20:36  
And I understand most of it, I think, but I would like to manipulate the wavetables.

Dorit Chrysler  20:41  
I think you should just really try to take the time and wiggle all the different functions and use your ears, we have the tools, and it really depends on where we take it.

Rick Reid  20:53  
One thing I would like to do is now that I have a low pass filter and two oscillators, is to create some sounds that are reminiscent o,f say, a Minimoog synthesizer.

Dorit Chrysler  21:03  
No manual can tell you, here's your Minimoog sound. But if you spend hours on end triggering around the things like you know, things would work on a synthesizer, then let's see how far you can get to have a similar sound. I'm sure it's possible to get there. But all you have is your ears for that.

Rick Reid  21:22  
I've had my Claravox for a couple of weeks now. And there's a lot to like about it. But one of my favorite things is simply the name Claravox.

Dorit Chrysler  21:30  
I'm so proud and honored that Moog solicited suggestions for the name of their new theremin instrument. And I suggested the name Claravox among other names because I thought that naming it after the first female electronic music pioneer would be befitting and so I'm so happy that name's made the cuts. And I hope that all the players will do the Clara and the potential of this instrument proud.

Rick Reid  22:03  
There's only a couple of hundred out in the market now as near as I can tell. So a lot of people are not going to know what we're talking about. But when they get their Claravox in the next few weeks, they're going to need some help. And you have a workshop coming up in October. Tell us about that.

Dorit Chrysler  22:19  
Yes, I'm gonna start a series of workshops and I guess given circumstances, it's best to do it online. So people from all time zones can join. And I think it will be very interesting to compare notes and toss questions and see where everyone is. This really now concerns people that already understand the basic principle of the Theremin. And I've heard some positive feedbacks from most of these players that already received it. And I think people really have to understand and dive into carving out their own sound. For the Claravox workshop, I think in the beginning, it will be good to just be able to ask each other questions and toss things around.

Rick Reid  23:04  
And you're gonna offer this workshop both online and in-person in Berlin. Is that right? 

Dorit Chrysler
Yes.

Rick Reid
Would there be any advantage to joining the workshop for someone who has ordered the instrument but doesn't have it yet?

Dorit Chrysler  23:16  
Yes, I think it would probably be very informative to just understand what people do and what issues they run into. And I think the Claravox has a lot of features that take time to unlock. So to kind of play around with that and to listen in would probably be interesting.

Rick Reid  23:35  
While I still have you here. Tell me about any upcoming projects that you're involved with either concerts or recordings.

Dorit Chrysler  23:42  
I've recently participated in a recording for a Broadway musical called Mr. Dellamort that's been released recently where almost every song contains theremin. And I've been commissioned a work by the MoMA. For a sound art video, we're going to go inside the MoMA what is currently an Alexander Calder exhibition. And I will place three different theremin types around to Calder sculptures and we will set the mobile in motion and we will have a duet between the sculpture and the theremins. And we will film and record it and turn that into an art piece. That's an upcoming project.

Rick Reid  24:24  
Well thank you very much and wish you the best of luck in all your endeavors in Berlin and elsewhere. And hope to see you again soon. 

Dorit Chrysler
Thanks for having me all the best to you. Take care.

Rick Reid
To get details about Dorit Chrysler's October Claravox workshops. Click on the events on the Theremin 30 calendar or on any of the links to the New York Theremin Society that appear on the Theremin 30 website. Let's wrap up the show now with a swan song but not the swan song you may be expecting. Here is the Italian experimental music project called Polvere in Cantina featuring thereminist and synthesist Vincenzo Mastrangelo, with a brand new track called Cygnus Ebridi. Vincenzo tells me it's inspired by the high-altitude flight of swans, which serves as a metaphor for striving to attain something that seems impossible.

Rick Reid  29:00  
That's all the time we have for this edition of the Theremin 30 podcast. Thank you to Electric Travelers, Kepa Lehtinen, The Octopus Project, and Polvere in Cantina for sharing their music and for my special guest, Dorit Chrysler. Also a big thank you goes to the listeners who support this podcast with monthly donations. Please, if you're not doing it already, follow the show on Twitter and Facebook, where I share the latest theremin news, and you can suggest music, ask questions, and get to know other listeners around the world. Even though things are slowly starting to get back to normal, the pandemic is definitely not over. So please get the vaccine if you're eligible, follow public safety guidelines, and try to be patient and supportive of each other as we all work to get through this together. Until next time, I'm your host Rick Reid. See you again soon.

David Brower  29:50  
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August 2021 - Xiao Xiao

 

In the August 2021 episode of the Theremin 30 podcast, host Rick Reid plays music from the UK, Japan, and France. Rick's interview guest is Xiao Xiao, Ph.D., a thereminist and postdoctoral researcher working in the Laboratoire de Phonétique et Phonologie at the Université Sorbonne Nouvelle - Paris 3. 

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FEATURED MUSIC*

  • "Starstruck (featuring Terrace Radio)" - Kevin Sinnott (Liverpool, England, UK)
  • "Spooky" - Steve Stroud (Liverpool, England, UK)
  • "Russian Medley" - Mable and Da (Hamamatsu, Shizuoka, Japan) 
  • "Field Sketches from Sonic Dreamscapes" (excerpt) - Xiao Xiao and Manuel Gaulhiac (Paris, France)
*The full-length recordings featured in this show were used with the knowledge and permission of the artists and composers. Please support the artists by visiting their websites, purchasing their recordings, and attending their performances. 

ADDITIONAL MUSIC

INTERVIEW GUEST

  • Xiao Xiao, Ph.D., postdoctoral researcher, Université Sorbonne Nouvelle - Paris 3. 

CALENDAR OF THEREMIN EVENTS

MEDIA LINKS

CONTACT

CREDITS 

Copyright 2021 Rick Reid 


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TRANSCRIPT

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David Brower  0:04  
This is there have been 3030 minutes of ceremonies, news events and interviews with a new episode about every 30 days. Now, here's

Rick Reid  0:14  
your host from Denver, Colorado, USA, Rick Reid. Hey there, welcome to Theremin 30 the only regularly scheduled English language Theremin podcast where you get to hear me try to pronounce the names of musicians and the songs from around the world in my crazy American accent. This is episode number 27 for August 2021. I'll be playing music from England to Japan and France. And my interview guest is Dr. Xiao Xiao. She is a computer scientist artist and musician based in Paris who blends her interests in some fascinating ways. Among other things, we'll be talking about how she got her Theremin to sing. Let's start the show now with a geographic double play two tracks from recording artists based in Liverpool, England. I don't know if they know each other already, but if they don't, they really should introduce themselves. First you'll hear music from Kevin senate and then Steve Stroud. I'll give you details about both tracks after the set. Sea around witness match when you raised

Rick Reid  9:30  
we started the show with a song called starstruck by Kevin Senate. He released that song as a single about three months ago. After that we heard a track called spooky by Steve Stroud from his current and fourth solo album called sketches from the bunker. Steve sang and played most of the instruments on that track, including the Theremin, he runs a recording studio in Liverpool called the big cloud productions. You can learn more about Kevin and Steve by clicking on their names and this month show notes at Theremin 30. dot com. After the break, I'll take a look at the calendar of Theremin events and play some Russian music by way of Japan. So stay tuned.

Rick Reid  10:21  
It's now time for the Theremin 30 calendar. Look at the Theremin related concerts, workshops and other events happening around the world in the weeks ahead. On August 10. Robert Meyer plays an outdoor concert in zinna Wits Germany on August 21 squirrly ainger will present a French language lecture and performance in lenses Switzerland on August 28 Dorit Chrysler leads online and in person Theremin workshops from Berlin Germany. And finally, this month happens to mark the 125th anniversary of the birth of Leon Theremin. Depending on which calendar you use. His birthday is either August 15, or August 28. So I recommend celebrating for the whole two weeks. For details about all of these events and more, check out the interactive calendar on Theremin thirty.com. And if you have an event you'd like me to put on the calendar, send me all the details through the website, Twitter or Facebook. Up next is music from an album I featured earlier this year called the Renaissance and evolution produced by Masami Takeuchi. It's a compilation of recordings by two of my Assamese music projects. This time around I have a track from mobile and da. I was curious about the name of the group, so I asked Masami about it. He explained that he used to have two different metrium and groups. One was called marble taking the first two letters from the word maitri Omen, and then the last three letters from the word ensemble. The other group made up of his matri Omen students was called da, which is the Russian language word for Yes. Eventually, he combined the two groups into a huge metrium an orchestra with 100 members. So here now as a recording of marble and da performing a track called Russian medley.

Rick Reid  17:09  
That was Russian Medley by marble and to draw from the Renaissance and evolution album produced by Masami Taguchi. Coming up after this break, visit with Dr. Xiao Xiao, so stick around

Rick Reid  17:41  
Xiao Xiao is a multi talented artist, musician and computer scientist who has combined her interests to create a piano that will play a duet with you, and a Theremin that can speak and sing in French. She has a PhD from MIT and works as a postdoctoral researcher in Paris. I spoke with her recently to find out more about her fascinating projects that blur the lines between art and science. Dr. Shah, thank you for being on Theremin 30. Thank you so much for having me. Rick, we should start with a little bit of your background. In music. You are originally a piano player, right?

Xiao Xiao 18:18  
I am. Yeah, I started classical piano when I was four years old. Music has always been a really important part of my life.

Rick Reid  18:26  
And then Theremin is something you came to much later.

Xiao Xiao  18:29  
Yeah, I was at the MIT Media Lab. And my official research topic is human computer interaction. There's a conference called nine new interfaces for musical expression, where I actually met door at Chrysler in 2017. And that was how I started playing the Theremin in the first place.

Rick Reid  18:48  
So you studied this human computer interaction through undergrad grad school and your doctorate degree.

Xiao Xiao  18:55  
I went to MIT for undergrad and I study computer science. And then afterwards, I was at the MIT Media Lab, and did my masters and PhD in this group called tangible media, which is all about envisioning new ways that people might interact with the computer or with digital information in the future. And at the same time that I was doing my Masters and PhD at the Media Lab. My first year, there was a class on music, improvisation. And I took that class and it totally changed my life because well, I've always been really into learning. But I guess I had always thought that people who become really really good in music, have some sort of special talent in the rest of us. If we're not so talented, then, you know, we can only get so far. This class made me really interested in thinking about music as a sandbox for learning how to learn.

Rick Reid  19:51  
What do you mean by sandbox?

Xiao Xiao  19:52  
I guess it's a metaphor about kids in playgrounds, right you have a playground you have the sandbox, the kids are always like, rule laying around in the sand, experimenting, learning about different ways of forming the sand and creating these little worlds for themselves to understand objects and physics in their own bodies. And I think this sort of learning is something that's really important. The world today is constantly changing. And I've personally feel like one of the most important skills that anybody can have is the ability to learn something quickly, efficiently, and maybe have a lot of fun while doing it.

Rick Reid  20:32  
One example, I think of what you're talking about is a video on the web, where you are playing a duet with a reflection of yourself, Is that the right way to describe

Xiao Xiao 20:42  
it. During my Master's in the PhD at the Media Lab, I had worked on some projects, imagining how the piano might be like in the future, where it could be augmented with digital information. And when I was playing the piano, one day, I was looking at the reflection of my hands on the surface in front of the keyboard. And I just had this thought of, wouldn't it be really lovely if instead of seeing your own reflection, you could see someone else's reflection and play a duet with the reflection of somebody from far away, or maybe even somebody from the past, I applied to the Media Lab with this as a project idea. And I think my advisor her she, she really resonated with the ideas behind the project. And I got accepted to the Media Lab and kind of spent the next few years trying to build this vision. Eventually, I had built enough prototypes to convince Yamaha to loan me a disc of your piano, which is like a player piano that plays itself. And so then I began to projection map onto the piano videos of pianos hands and the upper body projected as if it's on to the keys and on the part where the music would be. And this is synchronized with the moving keys of the Disklavier your piano gave the illusion, especially if you're sitting in front of it, that there's a person there, it really kind of hacks your brain to feel like there is a presence there. So at the Media Lab, people build demos of their projects. And the demo is kind of a way to tell stories about the future. One of the stories that I like to tell is about what it would be like for instance, having concerts streamed not just to your computer, but onto your piano at home, and you can actually feel like there's a hologram of the pianos in front of you. 

Rick Reid
A lot of people first became aware of you few years ago when you were teaching a Theremin to sing.

Xiao Xiao
This was a project called tea box. It's about t v. Okay. S and the idea is to connect a vocal synthesizer to the Theremin, which gives the Theremin the ability to sing with lyrics and to recite poetry. This project came about when I was doing a short research pilot project at a lab in Paris called Lem, which stands for luthier acoustic music. This group had developed a vocal synthesizer that's controlled by hand gestures, and they connected it to a Wakeham tablet where you're able to kind of draw on the screen and seeing with this really realistic sounding synthesized voice, and I had come to the group because I had seen their work at a conference and I had this idea of using their interface to help people learn Chinese tones. Tones are just one of the biggest difficulties with learning Chinese. And it's unfortunate because you can pronounce English or French with a horrible accent and people will still understand you. But if you don't get tones in Chinese, even if you can read and write really well speaking is always going to be a problem. In Chinese a tone is actually a frequency change. So in Chinese you have four tones. There's AA, which is just you know, like singing like Oh, ah which is it rises Ah, which dips and then ah which goes down. And if you play the Theremin, actually, maybe it's easier for you to understand tones because you can think of them as different gestures and they are different gestures of the voice. So anyway, I was in this group doing this pilot project and at that point, I had started to play the Theremin and I had been playing for a few months and I was really excited about it. And with a colleague, Greg Acker from the lab. We kind of got together during weekends to see whether we could connect the vocal synthesizer to the Theremin. Then it kind of worked pretty well because we already know is Theremin player That the Theremin has this incredible capacity to mimic the human voice when you add lyrics to it. That's just another dimension that you can play with.

Rick Reid  25:09  
Well it reminds me of how the Theremin was invented Professor Theremin was inventing something else. And that Theremin just sort of came out of that by accident.

Xiao Xiao  25:18  
Yeah, yeah. And you know, Professor Theremin is such a hero for me. He represents so much the spirit of exploration and discovery and self learning and connecting the dots between art science technology. I really wish I could have met him. He's just such an incredible inspiration.

Rick Reid  25:35  
Tell me about your Theremin experience outside of research are you performing

Xiao Xiao 25:41  
I performed that I bid when I was in New Orleans working on my art projects there before moving to Paris. In terms of more recent projects. There is something that I'm cooking up with a couple of friends from the Media Lab group, john D blown and Ching Lu, who have made this really amazing Sonic experience, which they presented at Ars Electronica last year, called the wandering mind. They take field recordings that are freely available on the internet, they do a spectral analysis of all the recordings like 1000s 10s of 1000s of them, then they feed it to a neural net, which clusters the recordings by similarity in terms of sounds. So then you get this 2d space where you can wander around using just like your keyboard, and your little square and you hear the sounds that are closest to you. And as you move around the space, you get this transforming soundscape. We have been experimenting with jamming with it in the Theremin. And so we got together a few times and he would pilot the wandering mind and I would play the Theremin. It's almost like you're a neural net yourself. And you're fed with these different sounds and you have to understand them somehow. Even if I never become professional in the world that the Theremin it's still such a gift to be interacting with this instrument and also is such a gift to be interacting with the Theremin community because it's such a beautiful close knit community like people are so generous with their knowledge and it's just really amazing to be part of it.

Rick Reid  27:22  
Now let's end the episode with Xiao Xiao on Theremin and Manuel Gualiac controlling the Wandering Mind sound system.

Rick Reid  29:18  
And that wraps up the August 2021 edition of the Theremin 30 Podcast. Thanks so much to Kevin Sinnott, Steve Stroud, and to Masmami Takeuchi and the 100 members of Mabel and Da for allowing me to play their music in the show. Also, a special thanks to my interview guest Xiao Xiao. The pandemic isn't over so be careful out there. Until next time, I'm your host Rick Reid, I'll see you around on Facebook and Twitter.

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July 2021 - Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel

  

Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel


The July 2021 episode of the Theremin 30 podcast is a special, super-sized edition. It features music from England, Spain, the USA, Russia, Germany, and Australia, plus an interview with Scott Burland and Frank Schultz of Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel. Host Rick Reid also previews the upcoming Worldwide Theremin Academy.

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FEATURED MUSIC*

*The full-length recordings featured in this show were used with the knowledge and permission of the artists and composers. Please support the artists by visiting their websites, purchasing their recordings, and attending their performances. 

ADDITIONAL MUSIC

INTERVIEW GUEST

CALENDAR OF THEREMIN EVENTS

MEDIA LINKS

CONTACT

CREDITS 

Copyright 2021 Rick Reid 

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TRANSCRIPT

Please note that this is a computer-generated transcript.  Some errors have not yet been corrected.

David Brower  0:04  

This is Theremin 30, thirty minutes of theremin music, news, events, and interviews with a new episode about every 30 days. Now, here's your host from Denver, Colorado, USA, Rick Reid.


Rick Reid  0:19  

Hello! Welcome to Theremin 30. I came up with the name of this show to indicate that it's 30 minutes long and comes out every 30 days. But you probably noticed that I don't always stick to that 30-day rule. So here it is the beginning of July and I didn't even get a June episode out at all. So to make it up to you, I'm going to break my other rule and let this episode go beyond the 30-minute mark. In fact, this show is going to be longer than two regular episodes. This will give me a chance to play a few really cool longer tracks that wouldn't easily fit into the usual episode format. My special guests this month are the Atlanta Georgia-based ambient group duet for Theremin and lapped steel. And later in the show. I'll fill you in on the Theremin Academy worldwide online events set for July 24 and 25th. So let's get this supersized edition of Theremin 30 started with a new track featuring Uk thereminist Alexx Mazonowicz. This group called New Note Orchestra is made up of musicians who use their talents to help each other with recovery from addiction. They'll be putting on a live streaming concert this first weekend of July July 4 from Brighton England. Tickets are free and there's a link to all the details in the Theremin 30 calendar at Theremin30.com. From their Kind Rebellion album, here's New Note Orchestra with a track called "Astral's Journey part 1."


Rick Reid  15:06  

We started the show with New Note Orchestra featuring Alexx Mazonowicz. They'll be playing live online on July 4. After that, I played "El Mensaje del Rio" or "The Message of the River" from the newest album by Paulo Pascual called Modulador de Ondas, be sure to check out the music video on the Theremin 30 YouTube playlist. Coming up next I'll take a look at the Theremin 30 calendar of theremin events. And I'll play a super-sized theremin track from Chris Conway. So stay tuned.


Rick Reid  15:52  

It's time now for the Theremin 30 calendar. Look at Theremin-related concerts, workshops, and other events happening around the world in the weeks ahead. The first weekend of July Dorit Chrysler will be participating in the Heroines of Sound festival in Berlin. That's actually already started but there are some events left so if you're in the area, be sure to check that out. As I mentioned New Note Orchestra presents a live-streaming concert from Brighton, England on July 4. Leif Rapids will be performing at the Calgary Folk Music Festival on July 23. Itchy-O plays the Denver Sculpture Park on July 24th. Yoko Onishi presents another RCA Theremin Evening on her YouTube channel on July 24. The World Wide Theremin Academy takes place on July 24 and 25th. I'll tell you more about that later in the show. Stranger Strings presents a free lunchtime concert in London, England on July 30. Marla Goodman presents a summer series of theremin recitals from her front porch in Bozeman, Montana, USA on most Thursday evenings. Lydia Kavina continues her Sunday evening workshop series. And Shueh-Li Ong hosts a couple of new episodes of her Music and Chat show this month on YouTube. For details about all of these events and more, check out the interactive calendar on Theremin30.com. And if you have an event that you'd like me to put on the calendar, send me all the details through the website, Twitter or Facebook. Now here's another new recording that was just too long to play in a regular episode from Chris Conway's Splendid Isolation album. Here's a song called "A Genteel Conversation."


Rick Reid  25:05  

That was "A Genteel Conversation" by Chris Conway. It's from his new album Splendid Isolation, which is made up of improvisations he recorded in his home studio in Leicester, England during the pandemic lockdown. To learn more about Chris and the other artists in this episode, visit Theremin30.com and click on their names. Later in this extended edition of the Theremin 30 podcast. I'll preview the 2021 worldwide Theremin Academy. And right after this break, I'll visit with the members of Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel. So stick around.


Rick Reid  26:06  

as you might imagine, Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel is a two-member band consisting of a thereminist Scott Burland and lap steel guitar player Frank Schultz. I played their spacey, ambient music a couple of times on previous episodes. They have a brand new album out so I invited them on the show to talk about that, and about their creative collaboration process. Scott and Frank, thank you so much for being on Theremin 30

Scott Burland

Thank you, Rick.


Rick Reid

Let's start with you. Frank. Tell me how you describe your band and its music to people who aren't familiar with 
Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel.


Frank Schultz  26:42  

I start out with the name and see what kind of look I get from the person I'm talking to go from there. 


Rick Reid  26:49  

Do you have a certain label that you like for the kind of music you create?


Frank Schultz  26:54  

 It's improvised music but more towards the ambient side of things.


Rick Reid  27:00  

And Scott, why don't you tell us how the two of you got together?


Scott Burland  27:03  

I've known Frank for a long time we were involved 16 years ago, maybe you know large group improv session with 15 people on stage. We knew each other. We said hello and got set up. And Frank was playing lap steel. And I had my theremin. And Frank had trouble hearing himself. And there was a bass player standing directly in front of me. And so I was having a hard time getting any kind of signal out of the theremin. And we were both a little disappointed in the outcome of that. But a few months later, Frank called and said, "Hey, would you be interested in trying to lap steel and theremin together?" and I thought that was a great idea. And so we started practicing probably early in 2006. We get together every couple of weeks, and we were both learning our instruments. At that time, I was really a newbie at the Theremin and Frank was learning the lap steel. And also we were using Ableton Live to add effects to our sounds. And so we're learning how that worked. And then things went on from there.


Rick Reid  28:05  

I think people would know the lap steel from country music or maybe Hawaiian music and one of my favorite guitarists Steve Howe uses a steel guitar on some of the Yes recordings. It sounds different when you play it. I listened to your albums and I'm not sure if I'm hearing guitar or not.


Frank Schultz  28:21  

Yeah, exactly. I never learned how to properly play lap steel guitar. So as Scott learned the theremin I learned the lap steel. I learned in a style that suited what we were doing together versus learning the instrument traditionally. So I think that's probably why it sounds the way it sounds.


Rick Reid  28:42  

You have these long, sustained, beautiful shimmering sorts of sounds. And I assume that it's difficult to hold the note that long. How do each of you do that with your respective instruments?


Scott Burland  28:53  

It's challenging to sustain notes for a long time just because of the way the theremin is played. So that's where effects come in. And I can, you know set a long delay or reverb and play around with that. And if I have to adjust my hand that's controlling the pitch, I can do that to try to nail the pitch.


Rick Reid  29:14  

For the lap steel Are you using an E-bow or a Vo Wond or some other sort of device to excite the strings?


Frank Schultz  29:21  

I have used the E-bow probably 10 times in the last 15 years.


Rick Reid

Oh!


Frank Schultz 

To me, it gives a weird harmonic ring that doesn't suit my lap steel very well. But I've been playing a little bit around with that and muting the back part of the string. So it doesn't seem to vibrate quite as much in the sounds a little bit better. So working on that a little bit primarily though, it's the use of violin bow... or effects.


Rick Reid

Oh, okay. 


Frank Schultz 

...or effects.


Rick Reid  29:53  

I tried out lap steel a little bit last year. I got an inexpensive lap steel to try to imitate what I thought you guys were doing and I never could figure it out trade secret right there, I should have you explain how you improvise the music,


Scott Burland  30:07  

there's really not a lot of discussion. But we typically rehearse at Frank's house and his stuff is set up, I show up, set my stuff up, and then we start playing, there's really no discussion about what we're going to do, we start playing, and then it may go for 15 minutes, it may go for an hour and a half. Frank will set the tone, whatever that is, whether it's a rhythmic thing or a drone, or he's bowing the lap steel. And then I'll just listen for a minute and then try to decide what's going to work with that. And then we just go from there, I can change it up. And then Frank can react to that, or vice versa. And next thing we know, it's 45 minutes later,


Rick Reid  30:46  

do you set up some rules for yourself so that you don't repeat a motif or an effect that you've already done on another recording?


Frank Schultz  30:53  

I don't, I tend to use the same types of effects that I've used for a while and just try and tweak those, but nothing really pre-planned.


Rick Reid  31:03  

You have a new album out right now I'm going to attempt to pronounce it. I think it's called Oh-mau-mua. Is that close?


Scott Burland 

So close? It's ʻOumuamua.


Rick Reid 

Say that again? 


Scott Burland 

ʻOumuamua.


Rick Reid 

And what does that mean? And how did you come up with that title?


Scott Burland  31:20  

ʻOumuamua is a Hawaiian word. And it translates as messenger from afar arriving first, it was the first Interstellar, what would you call it Frank, first interstellar... 

Frank Schultz  31:32  

Object... 


Scott Burland  31:33  

...object that was...


Frank Schultz  31:34  

...to come into our solar system. 


Rick Reid  31:36  

Oh, so this is that long space rock...


Frank Schultz

Yes.


Rick Reid  31:39  

...that was in the news, what a year or two ago?


Scott Burland

It was observed in 2017.

Rick Reid  31:45  

And did you come up with the title first, and then created music to fit the title? Or was it the other way around?


Frank Schultz  31:51  

We created the music first, and then went through the recordings, and then decided how to handle those as a project, which includes titles and themes and that kind of thing. 


Rick Reid  32:03  

You have one of the tracks as kind of a single Hector, you have a music video out for that we do we have music videos out for Vesta and for Hector. And I say kind of a single because both of those tracks are about eight minutes long. So it's not your typical single, right?


Scott Burland  32:20  

We have trouble with a three-to-four-minute scenario. The four-minute mark is just about when things start to take shape, and kind of make sense. So we go with that it's hard to make all the things happen in four minutes.


Rick Reid  32:31  

I've been to a few ambient shows, and I performed in an ambient show once. And it's definitely a different experience than going to a rock concert, I was curious about how it feels to be performing live for an audience that's drifting off into hypnosis as you play.


Scott Burland  32:47  

I go back to our first performance, which was in December 2006. And I think it struck both of us how quiet The audience was, you could hear a pin drop out there, it doesn't happen every time. But when it does, it's just a nice -- it shows a level of respect for the music. But it also just helps us to not be distracted by people talking or opening up beer cans. And we've played rock clubs, we've had to deal with that. But also, we've played the same venue and have had super quiet crowds. Our preference would be that people just weren't in that sort of dream state where they're just letting the music flow through them and or just listening.


Frank Schultz  33:25  

I think for me, that was the first grouping that I've played in that was this ambient or this droney. At first, I think I was a little concerned that there wasn't much of visual enticement for the audience. And I guess that can play one of two ways either. One way you hopefully good way is people just focus on the music. And so from that, we started showing some film, and I think the film actually helped folks not trying to either figure out what we're doing or wonder why we're not moving. a filmmaker here in Atlanta, Robbie land has cut quite a few films for us to take on tour and actually project live one more entail. I think we've just have gotten accustomed to folks that come out to the show and they don't really expect to rock and roll show. And we certainly don't provide that.


Rick Reid  34:15  

So how can people find out about your new album and any upcoming live performances?


Scott Burland  34:21  

The best place to listen to our music and purchase our music is through Bandcamp and that's DFTALS.bandcamp.com and then through our website, which is duetonline.net and that's typically where we have our tour schedule or upcoming shows listed. 


Frank Schultz  34:43  

You can purchase digital copies of our music through Apple Music and Amazon and all that stuff and as well as on Bandcamp. If you want to go straight to the source then Bandcamp's in place to go. 


Rick Reid  34:55  

This new album is a double album and the CD is limited to 120 five copies. So that's a collector's item. And I do want to mention that your most recent album before this new one came out in the height of the pandemic lockdown and you donated proceeds from the sales to support some nonprofit organizations in the Atlanta area.


Scott Burland  35:19  

Yeah, there was an organization called Giving Kitchen, which helps food service workers during the pandemic to help pay rent or bills or with health situations or health insurance. And then there was another organization, Atlanta Musicians Emergency Relief Fund, which provided help to musicians in those same ways. 


Rick Reid  35:40  

That's really a great and kind gesture and also sets a good example for other artists who might be able to do something similar.


Scott Burland  35:47  

We were pleased to be able to do that. And also just to be able to donate some money to organizations that benefited many of our friends and acquaintances here in Atlanta.


Rick Reid  35:56  

Thank you so much for taking the time to visit with me. And I've been a fan for a few years. I really enjoy your music and it was great to meet Scott a couple years ago at Moogfest.


Scott Burland  36:06  

Thanks for having us. Thanks for listening.


Frank Schultz  36:08  

We appreciate your support over the years for sure. Love the podcast.


Rick Reid  36:12  

Let's listen now to something from their new album that would be too long to play in anything but this supersized episode of Theremin 30 here's Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel with a track called "Vesta."


Rick Reid  44:45  

That was "Vesta" by Duet for Theremin and Lap Steel. Check out the music video for that track on the Theremin 30 YouTube playlist up text I've got more details on the worldwide Theremin Academy so stay tuned


Rick Reid  45:11  

Theremin Academy is an ongoing series of coordinated workshops held each year in France, Germany, England, and Switzerland. Past editions of Theremin Academy have featured workshops and performances by some of the most accomplished professional thereminist from around the world. Of course, the global pandemic forced the cancellation of most Theremin Academy events last year and the first half of this year. So the organizers have come up with a worldwide Theremin Academy that you can attend from your own home. It'll take place on July 24, and 25th. And it'll run continuously for 38 hours. So you can drop in whenever it's convenient and stay for an hour or all day, and everything will be recorded. So if you need to, I don't know sleep or something, you can watch the parts you missed. There will be performances and workshops conducted online from Europe, the USA, and Australia covering a wide range of musical styles and there will be sessions for both beginning and advanced players. There will also be presentations on Theremin history and technology, including the session just for a moment there are many owners, the whole event will take place live over zoom, and you'll have the chance to play in a live Theremin ensemble with other musicians from around the world. It looks to be a great couple of days of learning and fun. If you play Theremin, I'm sure you're aware it can be difficult to meet and collaborate with other Theremin players. So this is a wonderful opportunity for all of us. And I should mention that I'm not involved in planning or organizing the event in any way. But I just think it's going to be a really cool event and I hope to see you there. The registration fee for the event is 30 British pounds. And you can get the details and the full schedule online at Theremin.Academy. There's no dotcom in that it's just Theremin.Academy. And with that in mind, I'm going to finish off this supersized episode of the Theremin 30 podcast with an extended set of recent releases from three of the scheduled presenters and performers at the worldwide Theremin Academy. Lydia Kavina, Oleysasa Rostovskaya, and Miles Brown. I'll have track titles and other details after the set or you can follow along and this month show notes at Theremin30.com


Rick Reid  1:05:49  

We started that final set within "Whims of the Weather for two theremins and accordion" by Lydia Kavina from the album In a Nick of Time. That track features thereminist Lydia Kavina and Trautonia Capra with button accordionist Roman Usipey. The album was recorded back in 2013, but was just released earlier this year. Then I played "Mutation" with Olesya Rostovskaya on Theremin, Sergei Letov on electric saxophone, and Vladimir Goulokov on electric vibraphone from their new album At 9pm After Lockdown. The trio recorded this live improvised performance in Moscow on August 1 2020, the first day after the lifting of lockdown restrictions there. Then we ended that set with an excerpt from Transmogrification a new album by The Narcoleptor, an experimental collaboration between Australian thereminist Miles brown and harpist Mary Doumany. Lydia, Olesya, and Miles will be participating in the worldwide Theremin Academy in late July. Check out this month's show notes for a link to more details in the full schedule of workshops and performances. And that wraps up this special edition of the Theremin 30 podcast. I'll be back around the first of August with a brand new episode and the more fun-sized 30-minute format. I'll have new music from Kevin Sinnott, Japan's 100 member matyromin ensemble Mabel and Da, Steve Stroud, and maybe you. And one final note, if you've been enjoying the podcast, please help me make it grow by leaving a review on the Apple Podcasts website, by recommending the show to your friends, purchasing logo gear in the merch store, or by sending me a small gift to help cover my expenses. Also, consider advertising on the show if you have an album or workshop or some other event that you'd like to promote. You can visit the website for more details about all of that or send me a note through Facebook or Twitter. Also, please do what you can to support the theremin recording artists. Of course, this podcast couldn't exist without their talent and generosity. Until next time, I'm your host, Rick Reid, mind your control zone and we'll see you again soon.


David Brower  1:08:03  

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May 2021 - Shueh-Li Ong

 

Shueh-Li Ong

The May 2021 episode of the Theremin 30 podcast features music from Spain, England, and the USA. Rick Reid interviews Shueh-Li Ong, host of the YouTube livestream series Music and Chat with Shueh-Li Ong.

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TRANSCRIPT

David Brower
This is Theremin 30, thirty minutes of theremin music, news, events, and interviews, with a new episode about every 30 days. Now, here is your host from Denver, Colorado, USA -- Rick Reid.

Rick Reid
Hey, there! Welcome to the May 2021 episode of Theremin 30, the world's number one monthly theremin music podcast. I think it is safe to say that. This month I've got some wonderful music from England, Spain, and the USA. And my special guest is the multi-talented Shueh-Li Ong, host of the YouTube live-streaming show Music and Chat with Shueh-Li Ong. It is going to be a challenge to get everything into a 30-minute show, so let's get right to it.

First up, it's brand new music from Therematic, a project of Spanish thereminist Javier Diez Ena. Javier uses several theremins and Abelton Live to create both audio and MIDI streams at the same time. The result is a style he calls theremin dance music.  The name of this track is "Exotique Mecanique." 

Rick Reid
We started the show with a song called "Exotique Mecanique" by Therematic, the new dance music project by Javier Diez Ena. After that we heard a Claude Debussy composition, "Beau Soir," or "Beautiful Evening," performed by UK thereminist Charlie Draper and Harpist Holly Lowe, a duo calling themselves Stranger Strings. Debussy wrote this piece to accompany the words of a poem by Paul Bourget. The duo recorded this track last November for a TEDx presentation. You can watch the video on the Theremin 30 YouTube playlist.

It's time now for the Theremin 30 calendar of theremin events. On June 5th, concerts are back around the world with the Divine Hand Ensemble performing at a cemetery in Philadelphia, The Narcolepter on stage in Australia, and Javier Diez Ena performing as Therematic in Madrid, Spain. Lydia Kavina continues her online theremin workshops on most Sundays.  Yoko Onishi hosts another edition of the RCA Theremin Evening on YouTube on Saturday, June 26th. And on July 4th, the New Note Orchestra featuring thereminist Alexx Mazonovich will present a live-streaming concert with music from their new album. For details, visit the calendar page on Theremin30.com.

I'll have music from Armen Ra later in the show. And coming right up, I'll visit with the host of Music and Chat with Shueh-Li Ong. So stay tuned!

Rick Reid
Shueh-Li Ong has been called Singapore's Diva of the Theremin. The Nashville Scene newspaper has called her Queen of the Theremin. And I called her just a few days ago to find out more about the streaming talk show she has been hosting from two different continents during the pandemic.

Rick Reid
Sheuh-Li Ong. Thank you so much for being on the Theremin 30 podcast.

Shueh-Li Ong
Thanks Rick. Thanks so much for having me.

Rick Reid
We met in Durham, North Carolina, during Moogfest, a couple of years ago.You were performing at the Arcana.

Shueh-Li Ong
Yes, I was. And it was a pleasure as well to meet you finally in person.   

Rick Reid
You play keyboards and synthesizers and theremin. And it seems like every theremin player's got a story about how they became a theremin player. So what's your story?

Shueh-Li Ong
When I considered the theremin, I had reached a juncture in my development as a musician. I already had a degree in piano and post-graduate research in interactive multimedia performance systems. And I had just left a position as head of marketing and game development lead with this particular company in Singapore to then direct a music and technology show design company. I know it sounds like a mouthful, but I was always very keen that way to do too many things. So I was quite ready to incorporate other languages into my work, other musics. And the theremin was a natural choice. The grandfather of electronic musical instruments. I thought it deserved some airtime. I thought I could be a proponent -- one of many. Being a student of the theremin has also shaped the way I view and resolve problems in life. I hope I'm a little wiser or a wiser learner because of the experience.  Feeling inadequate is a catalyst to progress and a good thing if it challenges you. I guess you could say the impostor syndrome is a version of what I'm talking about. Some people are on the other end of the spectrum, the moment they start playing an instrument, they can do something, be it artistic or arithmetic or whatever. They go, "Nah, I'm really good at this. And look at me."  And I had come from the other side where the more I do,  the less I know, but the more excited I am.

Rick Reid
It seems like a lot of theremin players starting out or even after a few years still feel like an imposter. I know, I feel that way.

Shueh-Li Ong
The theremin is such a humbling instrument. Isn't it? It really forces you to just get down on your knees and pay attention. I know so many musicians and good ones who decide they want to play the theremin and realize it's not one of those instruments you can tame easily.  

Rick Reid
You've been playing theremin for more than 20 years and you've got a theremin with the Bob Moog signature on the top, did you ever get a chance to meet him?

Shueh-Li Ong
Yes, I did very briefly because we communicated over what I would like to have as a quote-unquote, player of the instrument, which was to have the volume antenna inverted. So he kindly did that for me. And when it came to purchasing my Etherwave Pro, he also did the conversion on that for me. A funny anecdote was during a photoshoot someone hit and toppled the E-Pro and damaged the antennas and it was sent it back to him to Moog Music. But unfortunately, Bob Moog had already left us and was only there in spirit. And the guys at Moog Music said to me "Bob did not leave any blueprints so we'll have to reverse engineer this and --hope we can fix it!"

Rick Reid
You use a lot of effects with your electronic music. Do you have a favorite effects pedal that you use with your theremin?

Shueh-Li Ong
I started off experimenting with effects pedals and then ended up using plug-in effects on Mainstage instead.  Mainstage is the performance accompaniment to Logic Pro, which is the DAW that I use. 

Rick Reid
The other reason that I wanted you on the show, not just because you're a theremin player, you have a show of your own --  Music and Chat with Shueh-Li Ong. What is that? How do you explain it to someone who hasn't seen the show?

Shueh-Li Ong
I began Music and Chat with Shelly Ong, a YouTube live stream, as a means to stay in touch with friends and fans during the pandemic. And friends from the industry and their friends have been my guests. Sharing their behind-the-scenes work as inventors, concept artists, VFX supervisors, composers, orchestrators, synthesists, magazine editors, et cetera, et cetera.  The whole idea was to stay in touch with everybody and to bring some fun and joy and party spirit. When I say party, everyone gets together and it's a hearty party. I say you feel like you're gathering with friends and you are interacting with them because it's real-time, everyone gets to, have conversations with each other, as well as with the guest and with me. And they really enjoy that. So do the guests, which is really nice. 

Rick Reid
People can ask questions of your guest?

Shueh-Li Ong
Yes. And they do. Very often they are more informed than I am, being fans of various areas or musical genres, or even the guest, in particular, they have followed the history or the trends of the era or the person in question. And they have more in-depth information than I might have.  And I love it because we all learn from each other. That's the whole point, isn't it? I'm just hosting it. I'm not claiming to be the historian. And I have had some. Interesting historical and anecdotal accounts as well from our various guests, who have included Peter Zenovieff of EMS London, Jim Scott and Herb Deutsch on their work with Bob Moog, Pat Gleeson and Don Preston on synthesizing Apocalypse Now, performers from Moogfest  '07  when it was still held at B.B. King's Times Square. I've been trying to find video clips from MoogFest '07, and I believe someone out there has it. So I'm hoping to bring the gang back again to view some of these clips, which I hope will be in a few months' time.  I'll have some other guests such as Dean Parks and Chuck Rainey, Fairlight and Synclavier exponents Rory Kaplan and Chris Currell, and Bob Clearmountain will be back for round two. Bob is a premier mix engineer well-known for his work during the eighties and nineties, I believe, and still carrying on.

Rick Reid
And your show is music and chat. So you actually perform live during part of your show.

Shueh-Li Ong
Yes, I do at the very start. I chat with my viewers and then I play something live for them. And "live" is the operative word.

Rick Reid
Synthesizers and theremin?

Shueh-Li Ong
Yes. Sometimes tin whistle. On the odd occasion I sing.

Rick Reid
If people want to watch your program, is it every week?

Shueh-Li Ong
I just launched season three last Saturday,  And due to my teaching schedule, I'm doing it every fortnight or some people might say every two weeks. And I will see how my schedule works out. I might start doing it weekly.

Rick Reid
I've been putting it on my Theremin 30 calendar. And  I put a note in there because sometimes you change the time depending on your guest's schedule.

Shueh-Li Ong
Because it's live. I do need to accommodate the guests depending on where they're coming from.  I feel very fortunate being in this pandemic situation that people are still reaching out and that's the whole point of Music and Chat, that we can come together, share music, and just share our companionship. And our guests have been very nice to agree to appear and allow us to do that.

Rick Reid
If I miss a show, can I watch it later?

Shueh-Li Ong
Yes. They are currently archived on my YouTube channel.  If you are interested in checking it out it's Oceanachine spelled O C E A N A C H I N E.  It's one word, or if you get lost, you can type my name in, but you need to spell it correctly. And it's S H U E H L I and my last name is Ong, O N G.  

Rick Reid
it's Music and Chat with Shelly Ong and it's every fortnight. it's either on a Sunday or a Saturday, depending on what part of the world you're in.

Shueh-Li Ong
I usually put a placeholder on the spot where the live stream will take place eventually. And it gives you time and dates and how many hours to the live stream. You won't ever get lost. And if you subscribe and hit the bell symbol, you'll be alerted to when the live streams take place.

Rick Reid
And I'll have the link to that on the show notes for this episode. So if the listeners don't remember how to spell your name, they can just click on the link on the notes and get right to your show on YouTube.

Shueh-Li Ong
If I may tell your listeners that if they're interested in lessons with me, I can do them remotely, or if they want a song or album to be produced and they need help, I can do that, too.

Rick Reid
Oh, cool. Thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Shueh-Li Ong
Thanks, Rick. And you take care, and thanks so much for having me as well.

Rick Reid
Now, let's finish this segment of the show with some music by Shueh-Li Ong that features upright bass player Brian Mooney. This is a medley of two short pieces called "SarahSaoirse" and "Izeibil."

Rick Reid
There's still music on the way from Armen Ra, so stay tuned!

Rick Reid
Let's finish the show with two tracks from Armen Ra's 2018 album Theremin Discmorphia.  I was going to play just one song, but these two tracks seem meant to stay together. First, you'll hear "Nessun Dorma," the aria from the Puccini opera Turandot. "Nessum Dorma" translates from Italian as "Let No One Sleep."  After that, we'll hear "Let Me Sleep."

Rick Reid
Thank you so much to Therematic, Stranger Strings, Shueh-Li Ong, and Armen Ra for sharing their music, and another thank you to Shueh-Li Ong for visiting with me about her Music and Chat show on YouTube. Coming up in the June episode, I'll be playing new music from Paulo Pascual and the New Note Orchestra. Until then, please do all you can to support the recording artists and guests who appear on Theremin 30. It has been a difficult time for everyone in the theremin community, so we need to continue to lift each other up. I'm your host, Rick Reid. I'll see you around on Twitter and Facebook.

David Brower
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